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	<title>Comments on: Quark Advances the Design Experience with QuarkXPress 8</title>
	<link>http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/news/2008/quark-advances-the-design-experience-with-quarkxpress-8/</link>
	<description>The Authority for News &#038; Opinion on the War of the Desktop Publishing Giants QuarkXPress and Adobe InDesign</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 03:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: Jon Pastor</title>
		<link>http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/news/2008/quark-advances-the-design-experience-with-quarkxpress-8/#comment-63874</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 03:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Whoever said that Quark can be used for long documents has clearly never tried it. It is abominable.The "book" construct is flaky and dysfunctional: if Quark crashes -- and it will, at least once in each session -- you can lose all connection between the "book" and the "chapters".

I just lost 4 hours of work when Quark 8 crashed. I had autosave every 5 minutes set -- I'm not stupid -- but there was nothing, NOTHING, but a an a$v file from the START of my session.

I cannot run Quark for more than an hour without having it crash at least once, and more often many times.

I have to continue using Quark until my current project is finished; after that, I will never touch it again. It's total disaster. Version 8 is little, if any, better than the crash-prone V7 -- but at least V7 usually followed my directions by doing back ups.

If you are trying to decide between Quark and InDesign -- I have been trying desperately to find a reason not to switch for a couple of years now. I've run out of patience.

Do yourself a favor and don't touch Quark with a 20-foot pole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoever said that Quark can be used for long documents has clearly never tried it. It is abominable.The &#8220;book&#8221; construct is flaky and dysfunctional: if Quark crashes &#8212; and it will, at least once in each session &#8212; you can lose all connection between the &#8220;book&#8221; and the &#8220;chapters&#8221;.</p>
<p>I just lost 4 hours of work when Quark 8 crashed. I had autosave every 5 minutes set &#8212; I&#8217;m not stupid &#8212; but there was nothing, NOTHING, but a an a$v file from the START of my session.</p>
<p>I cannot run Quark for more than an hour without having it crash at least once, and more often many times.</p>
<p>I have to continue using Quark until my current project is finished; after that, I will never touch it again. It&#8217;s total disaster. Version 8 is little, if any, better than the crash-prone V7 &#8212; but at least V7 usually followed my directions by doing back ups.</p>
<p>If you are trying to decide between Quark and InDesign &#8212; I have been trying desperately to find a reason not to switch for a couple of years now. I&#8217;ve run out of patience.</p>
<p>Do yourself a favor and don&#8217;t touch Quark with a 20-foot pole.
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		<title>by: Paul Chernoff</title>
		<link>http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/news/2008/quark-advances-the-design-experience-with-quarkxpress-8/#comment-61821</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Indesign is great for Single page designs where you want a bit of flare….but for books and anything that requires multiple pages..forget it.

Huh? We have been using InDesign for publishing a monthly magazine for 3 years and love it. We find the panels easy to deal with (CS3 greatly improved their management). And a lot of our work can be done from the keyboard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indesign is great for Single page designs where you want a bit of flare….but for books and anything that requires multiple pages..forget it.</p>
<p>Huh? We have been using InDesign for publishing a monthly magazine for 3 years and love it. We find the panels easy to deal with (CS3 greatly improved their management). And a lot of our work can be done from the keyboard.
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		<title>by: Quark8</title>
		<link>http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/news/2008/quark-advances-the-design-experience-with-quarkxpress-8/#comment-61590</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 22:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Indesign is great for Single page designs where you want a bit of flare....but for books and anything that requires multiple pages..forget it.

I have used both in a range of jobs for quite some time, I find that Indesign likes to impress with its many pallets and cluttered screens.

Quark 8 is a real pleasure to use and I don't think for a moment that they will be gone anytime soon.

people are quick to chuck immature comments about quark about and build up Indesign into something its not, but people do not release that out side the small design houses and self employed designers.

I work in the publishing industry and have for quite some time and still deal with a large volume of Quark docs.

Quark still has a strong foothold and will continue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indesign is great for Single page designs where you want a bit of flare&#8230;.but for books and anything that requires multiple pages..forget it.</p>
<p>I have used both in a range of jobs for quite some time, I find that Indesign likes to impress with its many pallets and cluttered screens.</p>
<p>Quark 8 is a real pleasure to use and I don&#8217;t think for a moment that they will be gone anytime soon.</p>
<p>people are quick to chuck immature comments about quark about and build up Indesign into something its not, but people do not release that out side the small design houses and self employed designers.</p>
<p>I work in the publishing industry and have for quite some time and still deal with a large volume of Quark docs.</p>
<p>Quark still has a strong foothold and will continue.
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		<title>by: Editor ID</title>
		<link>http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/news/2008/quark-advances-the-design-experience-with-quarkxpress-8/#comment-56320</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 13:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/news/2008/quark-advances-the-design-experience-with-quarkxpress-8/#comment-56320</guid>
					<description>I agree, a detailed review would be great.

Am forced to use InDesign, read here: http://www.leader-vindicator.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=19757713&#38;BRD=2758&#38;PAG=461&#38;dept_id=572980&#38;rfi=6

Looking forward to switch back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, a detailed review would be great.</p>
<p>Am forced to use InDesign, read here: <a href='http://www.leader-vindicator.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=19757713&amp;BRD=2758&amp;PAG=461&amp;dept_id=572980&amp;rfi=6'>leader-vindicator.co..._id=572980&amp;rfi=6</a></p>
<p>Looking forward to switch back.
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		<title>by: Editor X</title>
		<link>http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/news/2008/quark-advances-the-design-experience-with-quarkxpress-8/#comment-56249</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 09:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/news/2008/quark-advances-the-design-experience-with-quarkxpress-8/#comment-56249</guid>
					<description>Saw the demo at Drupa - looks good! Does Quarkv/sID plan on evaluating ver 8? There was a good review done by u on 7 - the Good Bad Ugly one...

Would be great if you could do the same on this. Demos always look good, its the real review that i want to base my upgrade plan on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saw the demo at Drupa - looks good! Does Quarkv/sID plan on evaluating ver 8? There was a good review done by u on 7 - the Good Bad Ugly one&#8230;</p>
<p>Would be great if you could do the same on this. Demos always look good, its the real review that i want to base my upgrade plan on.
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		<title>by: Ad agency owner</title>
		<link>http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/news/2008/quark-advances-the-design-experience-with-quarkxpress-8/#comment-55649</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 04:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hanging punctuation, and a bezier tool, eh? It took Quark long enough to figure THOSE out, didn't it?

Yawwwwwwwwwwwwwn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hanging punctuation, and a bezier tool, eh? It took Quark long enough to figure THOSE out, didn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>Yawwwwwwwwwwwwwn.
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		<title>by: Pariah S. Burke</title>
		<link>http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/news/2008/quark-advances-the-design-experience-with-quarkxpress-8/#comment-55456</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/news/2008/quark-advances-the-design-experience-with-quarkxpress-8/#comment-55456</guid>
					<description>Perhaps you should read this "irrelevant" site more extensively, "Good Thing in Colorado." Then you would be able to put information in context rather than pick and choose which bits and pieces to string together into anonymous and incoherent derision.

QuarkXPress 8 is exactly what I predicted it would be &lt;a href="http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/features/2007/quark-no-comment/" rel="nofollow"&gt;in a September 2007 editorial&lt;/a&gt;. Of particular relevance is the following section:

&lt;blockquote&gt;I don’t believe that Schiavone intends to take Quark down the same road he steered Arbortext, moving fully out of desktop and into enterprise. Eventually, yes, but not today. On the contrary, I think Schiavone cares a great deal about desktops at this crucial stage in the game. He needs them. The desktop is his gateway to the enterprise, and, just like Microsoft and Adobe before him, he needs desktop software to sell and leverage his new enterprise products.

I think QuarkXPress will continue to have utility on its own, but its primary role will be to function as a desktop client for an as-yet unrevealed enterprise-grade suite of systems.

XPress 8 will be the first stage, I predict. It will have few new features designers really want, but will offer greater scalability and automation important to managers of large publishing workflows. ...Schiavone knows that major publishing workflows don’t change rapidly. His realistic goal for the XPress 8 generation of products will be to make the market take notice of Quark again, to open a dialog with large workflow managers who will help refine Schiavone’s vision for XPress 9.

...By the time XPress 9 and its matching systems do release...QuarkXPress will be little more than a client application. All the real power will reside on the server-side systems...&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps you should read this &#8220;irrelevant&#8221; site more extensively, &#8220;Good Thing in Colorado.&#8221; Then you would be able to put information in context rather than pick and choose which bits and pieces to string together into anonymous and incoherent derision.</p>
<p>QuarkXPress 8 is exactly what I predicted it would be <a href="http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/features/2007/quark-no-comment/" rel="nofollow">in a September 2007 editorial</a>. Of particular relevance is the following section:</p>
<blockquote><p>I don’t believe that Schiavone intends to take Quark down the same road he steered Arbortext, moving fully out of desktop and into enterprise. Eventually, yes, but not today. On the contrary, I think Schiavone cares a great deal about desktops at this crucial stage in the game. He needs them. The desktop is his gateway to the enterprise, and, just like Microsoft and Adobe before him, he needs desktop software to sell and leverage his new enterprise products.</p>
<p>I think QuarkXPress will continue to have utility on its own, but its primary role will be to function as a desktop client for an as-yet unrevealed enterprise-grade suite of systems.</p>
<p>XPress 8 will be the first stage, I predict. It will have few new features designers really want, but will offer greater scalability and automation important to managers of large publishing workflows. &#8230;Schiavone knows that major publishing workflows don’t change rapidly. His realistic goal for the XPress 8 generation of products will be to make the market take notice of Quark again, to open a dialog with large workflow managers who will help refine Schiavone’s vision for XPress 9.</p>
<p>&#8230;By the time XPress 9 and its matching systems do release&#8230;QuarkXPress will be little more than a client application. All the real power will reside on the server-side systems&#8230;</p></blockquote>
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		<title>by: Good Thing in Colorado</title>
		<link>http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/news/2008/quark-advances-the-design-experience-with-quarkxpress-8/#comment-55260</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 00:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Cool!  Good thing Quark is quitting desktop.  Your misinformation is making this site irrelevant.  Great reporting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool!  Good thing Quark is quitting desktop.  Your misinformation is making this site irrelevant.  Great reporting.
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