Comments on: Text Runaround In InDesign http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/how-to/2005/text-runaround-in-indesign/ The Authority for News & Opinion on the War of the Desktop Publishing Giants QuarkXPress and Adobe InDesign Sat, 17 May 2008 00:52:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.11 by: Brandie http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/how-to/2005/text-runaround-in-indesign/#comment-16788 Tue, 12 Sep 2006 10:10:35 +0000 http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/how-to/2005/text-runaround-in-indesign/#comment-16788 We are considering changing from Quark 6.5 to InDesign CS2 for our publishing needs. In Quark, the graphic box is automatically set to runaround. I am looking to set the default for the graphic box in InDesign to have an automatic text wrap (runaround). Is there any way to do this? Also I am looking for a way to paste a metafile in InDesign. I am able to paste a table from Excel as a metafile without losing any formatting using the paste special>metafile feature in Quark. Unfortunately I can’t seem to find a way to do the same in InDesign. The only way I can import the table without losing the formatting is by placing a PDF of the table. Any suggestions? We are considering changing from Quark 6.5 to InDesign CS2 for our publishing needs. In Quark, the graphic box is automatically set to runaround. I am looking to set the default for the graphic box in InDesign to have an automatic text wrap (runaround). Is there any way to do this?

Also I am looking for a way to paste a metafile in InDesign. I am able to paste a table from Excel as a metafile without losing any formatting using the paste special>metafile feature in Quark. Unfortunately I can’t seem to find a way to do the same in InDesign. The only way I can import the table without losing the formatting is by placing a PDF of the table.

Any suggestions?

]]> by: JKo http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/how-to/2005/text-runaround-in-indesign/#comment-14121 Wed, 12 Jul 2006 15:17:03 +0000 http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/how-to/2005/text-runaround-in-indesign/#comment-14121 We work with layers of colour, text and image boxes within one area. Example: large coloured box with text below. So I text wrap the colour box for the lower text (to be able to shift if needed). Now we add text on top of box. To get that to show up you have to turn off wrap. OK no problem - here is the issue .... Now we want 2 images with this top text and need the text to runaround the images, except I had to turn it off for the bottom box? Any ideas? We work with layers of colour, text and image boxes within one area. Example: large coloured box with text below. So I text wrap the colour box for the lower text (to be able to shift if needed). Now we add text on top of box. To get that to show up you have to turn off wrap. OK no problem - here is the issue …. Now we want 2 images with this top text and need the text to runaround the images, except I had to turn it off for the bottom box? Any ideas?

]]> by: Samuel John Klein http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/how-to/2005/text-runaround-in-indesign/#comment-2150 Wed, 19 Apr 2006 23:03:53 +0000 http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/how-to/2005/text-runaround-in-indesign/#comment-2150 B Jung Nan: <blockquote>Will someone please tell me how to set runaround - OFF as the permanant default setting? Is it possible to do this</blockquote> Sadly, this does not seem to be something that has a application-wide default. I generated a few documents and tried it several ways, including going into the Preferences with gun and camera to see if I could locate anything. The behavior of the text wrap you'll get without touching the Text Wrap palette seems to be inherited from whatever it was you were doing when the application was last closed or whatever was oprative in the document you were editing with that was closed. I got the best results when I checked my text wrap when I closed the app or the document and set it to what I wanted it to be. The text wrap mode of the document seems to override the text wrap mode you have set in the application before you open that document. You might consider going to Adobe's site and mention it as a feature upgrade for the next version of InD. They are typcially very responsve to such requests.. B Jung Nan:

Will someone please tell me how to set runaround - OFF as the permanant default setting? Is it possible to do this

Sadly, this does not seem to be something that has a application-wide default. I generated a few documents and tried it several ways, including going into the Preferences with gun and camera to see if I could locate anything.

The behavior of the text wrap you’ll get without touching the Text Wrap palette seems to be inherited from whatever it was you were doing when the application was last closed or whatever was oprative in the document you were editing with that was closed. I got the best results when I checked my text wrap when I closed the app or the document and set it to what I wanted it to be.

The text wrap mode of the document seems to override the text wrap mode you have set in the application before you open that document.

You might consider going to Adobe’s site and mention it as a feature upgrade for the next version of InD. They are typcially very responsve to such requests..

]]> by: B Jung Nan http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/how-to/2005/text-runaround-in-indesign/#comment-2084 Thu, 06 Apr 2006 02:55:09 +0000 http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/how-to/2005/text-runaround-in-indesign/#comment-2084 Will someone please tell me how to set runaround - OFF as the permanant default setting? Is it possible to do this. Help with this will be very much appreciated. I've tried doing it with no jobs open. It just insists on defaulting back to runaround on. Please, Help! Thanks. Will someone please tell me how to set runaround - OFF as the permanant default setting? Is it possible to do this. Help with this will be very much appreciated. I’ve tried doing it with no jobs open. It just insists on defaulting back to runaround on. Please, Help! Thanks.

]]> by: B Jung Nan http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/how-to/2005/text-runaround-in-indesign/#comment-1576 Thu, 02 Mar 2006 04:00:19 +0000 http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/how-to/2005/text-runaround-in-indesign/#comment-1576 Oh how I wish you were correct that setting runaround preferences when you have no docs open would solve the problem. It does not. That pesky runaround just loves to come back. And oh how very much I wish the problem in Quark was limited to just runaround. Reality is, however, that Quark gives me the runaround in many places (all keeping me busy with workarounds). Best Regards To All, BJN Oh how I wish you were correct that setting runaround preferences when you have no docs open would solve the problem. It does not. That pesky runaround just loves to come back.

And oh how very much I wish the problem in Quark was limited to just runaround. Reality is, however, that Quark gives me the runaround in many places (all keeping me busy with workarounds).

Best Regards To All,
BJN

]]> by: Peter http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/how-to/2005/text-runaround-in-indesign/#comment-1548 Sat, 25 Feb 2006 08:58:17 +0000 http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/how-to/2005/text-runaround-in-indesign/#comment-1548 Hey, Jung Nan, RTFM. You need to turn it off when NO document is OPEN. Only then the preference applies to ALL NEW documents. And make sure you do that for every box type (you can multiple select them). If that's your only problem, consider yourself lucky, I'd love to work with an app where I just see one nuisance. Greetings Peter Hey, Jung Nan,

RTFM.

You need to turn it off when NO document is OPEN. Only then the preference applies to ALL NEW documents.
And make sure you do that for every box type (you can multiple select them).

If that’s your only problem, consider yourself lucky, I’d love to work with an app where I just see one nuisance.

Greetings
Peter

]]> by: B Jung Nan http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/how-to/2005/text-runaround-in-indesign/#comment-1547 Sat, 25 Feb 2006 05:08:43 +0000 http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/how-to/2005/text-runaround-in-indesign/#comment-1547 Whatever Quark calls it, it's runaround is the most darned annoying thing I have ever come across. Preferences, no matter how many times I set them, will not let me turn Runaround off as the default. Like a bad dream it just keeps hauting me. I work in Quark every day and cuss it daily, the loudest over Runaround. Whatever Quark calls it, it’s runaround is the most darned annoying thing I have ever come across. Preferences, no matter how many times I set them, will not let me turn Runaround off as the default. Like a bad dream it just keeps hauting me. I work in Quark every day and cuss it daily, the loudest over Runaround.

]]> by: Barry B http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/how-to/2005/text-runaround-in-indesign/#comment-1464 Thu, 26 Jan 2006 15:43:19 +0000 http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/how-to/2005/text-runaround-in-indesign/#comment-1464 Thanks VERY much for this extremely helpful resource. After Googling to find this simple answer, I CERTAINLY appreciate the help! Making the switch to InDesign (while still working in Quark) has been pretty painless, but especially with help like you have given. Thanks VERY much! I have some help in finding inexpensive pricing on just about any item and post free deals on my website, http://www.thecheapestlink.com, in case anybody would like to check it out. Let me know and I'll find deals for you! Barry Thanks VERY much for this extremely helpful resource. After Googling to find this simple answer, I CERTAINLY appreciate the help! Making the switch to InDesign (while still working in Quark) has been pretty painless, but especially with help like you have given. Thanks VERY much!

I have some help in finding inexpensive pricing on just about any item and post free deals on my website, http://www.thecheapestlink.com, in case anybody would like to check it out. Let me know and I’ll find deals for you!

Barry

]]> by: Terry http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/how-to/2005/text-runaround-in-indesign/#comment-1040 Wed, 26 Oct 2005 20:51:49 +0000 http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/how-to/2005/text-runaround-in-indesign/#comment-1040 Thanks for clearing up an issue that was driving me crazy. I knew that function had to exist in inDesign, but the Adobe tutorials apparently don't consider that function worth mentioning. Curious, since that's practically the primary function of a page layout app. Thanks for clearing up an issue that was driving me crazy. I knew that function had to exist in inDesign, but the Adobe tutorials apparently don’t consider that function worth mentioning. Curious, since that’s practically the primary function of a page layout app.

]]> by: Samuel John Klein http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/how-to/2005/text-runaround-in-indesign/#comment-730 Sun, 21 Aug 2005 03:32:44 +0000 http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/how-to/2005/text-runaround-in-indesign/#comment-730 Kay: Could you respond to this follow (in email if you want) with more detail? In particular I'm interested in all the settings you're using in your text wrap palette. Kay:

Could you respond to this follow (in email if you want) with more detail? In particular I’m interested in all the settings you’re using in your text wrap palette.

]]> by: Kay http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/how-to/2005/text-runaround-in-indesign/#comment-726 Thu, 18 Aug 2005 22:31:35 +0000 http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/how-to/2005/text-runaround-in-indesign/#comment-726 I am a Quark user adjusting to InDesign's different way of wrapping text. I have found the Text wrap palette and set my text wrap on the graphic that I want the text to wrap around. The picture is on top of the text, but the text isn't wrapping around the picture. Am I missing something here? Appreciate your help kay I am a Quark user adjusting to InDesign’s different way of wrapping text. I have found the Text wrap palette and set my text wrap on the graphic that I want the text to wrap around. The picture is on top of the text, but the text isn’t wrapping around the picture. Am I missing something here?

Appreciate your help

kay

]]> by: dan paulus http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/how-to/2005/text-runaround-in-indesign/#comment-630 Fri, 22 Jul 2005 19:44:56 +0000 http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/how-to/2005/text-runaround-in-indesign/#comment-630 We're currently transitioning to InDesign from Quark and we're experiencing text wrap issues. Specifically, if we have an image that partially spans more than one column, the text in the partially intruded column on the left jumps differently than the column next to it. The text is locked to the baseline grid, so both columns are lined up with each other, but the line in the left column wraps one line lower than the column next to it. Its like it is responding to the left value of the wrap, whereas the other column is responding to the bottom value of the wrap. We've tried all the different text wrap options and aren't having any luck. Any ideas? We’re currently transitioning to InDesign from Quark and we’re experiencing text wrap issues. Specifically, if we have an image that partially spans more than one column, the text in the partially intruded column on the left jumps differently than the column next to it. The text is locked to the baseline grid, so both columns are lined up with each other, but the line in the left column wraps one line lower than the column next to it. Its like it is responding to the left value of the wrap, whereas the other column is responding to the bottom value of the wrap. We’ve tried all the different text wrap options and aren’t having any luck. Any ideas?

]]> by: Samuel John Klein http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/how-to/2005/text-runaround-in-indesign/#comment-504 Fri, 10 Jun 2005 02:17:17 +0000 http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/how-to/2005/text-runaround-in-indesign/#comment-504 Glad I could help! <i>And</i> I get two more things to add to my skill set as well! Though <i>marriage counselor</i> and <i>spiritual guide</i> may look a bit strange in the old C.V. Seriously, though, if there's any additional how-to subjects you feel we could cover, please feel free to suggest! <!-- strikes = --> Glad I could help! And I get two more things to add to my skill set as well!

Though marriage counselor and spiritual guide may look a bit strange in the old C.V.

Seriously, though, if there’s any additional how-to subjects you feel we could cover, please feel free to suggest!

]]> by: GeekAustin http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/how-to/2005/text-runaround-in-indesign/#comment-502 Thu, 09 Jun 2005 15:30:30 +0000 http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/how-to/2005/text-runaround-in-indesign/#comment-502 You've saved our marrage and quite possibly... my wifes eternal soul! The wife is a dyed in the wool Quark user being forced to design in InDesign for one of her clients. We both work from home, and she began cursing like a sailor. Something about changing terminology between products and Adobe is full of $#!+. Well... I quickly and easily Googled the offending functions to find your site. Hats off to you for offering such a valuable service! <!-- strikes = --> You’ve saved our marrage and quite possibly… my wifes eternal soul! The wife is a dyed in the wool Quark user being forced to design in InDesign for one of her clients. We both work from home, and she began cursing like a sailor. Something about changing terminology between products and Adobe is full of $#!+. Well… I quickly and easily Googled the offending functions to find your site. Hats off to you for offering such a valuable service!

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