Comments on: Quark Quitting Desktop?

by: Quark Forums

Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:35:29 +0000

See also here, information on Quark’s Website:
http://forums.quark.com/t/18968.aspx

by: shallabh

Fri, 04 Apr 2008 04:21:27 +0000

I believe Quark is going in the right direction. Just due to bad publicity/ management have made a dent on its reputation. I believe Quark people are striving to make Quark’s products stable now. I think the focus is now on enterprise
systems but quark leaving desktop is premature…

by: Anonymous

Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:12:30 +0000

ThePowerXChange, publisher of X-Ray Magazine has this to say about this rumor.

X-Ray Magazine:
Rumor has it: Quark is abandoning the desktop. Rubbish!

The real story is that the future of content-driven, media- independent publishing comes to life with Quark’s new enterprise solutions that are founded on Quark technology (yes, QuarkXPress), partnerships, and open standards.

Read online:
xraymag.com/articles...5n4_quark_dps_1.html

by: Blake

Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:30:51 +0000

RE: #41. I think you want the eydropper tool in InDesign. Double click on the tool to bring up the options.

by: Jeremy Schultz

Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:52:39 +0000

I’m not sure about the questions of applying tab settings to paragraphs, I’ve always used paragraph styles to apply tabs over multiple paragraphs.

by: sugrstky

Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:02:45 +0000

I actually have a technical question. You know how in Quark, you can give a paragraph the same tab settings as a paragraph above it by simply highlighting the text, then holding down the option button - you click on the line that has the tabs you like?

I love that little trick and I can’t find this type of thing anywhere in InDesign…anyone know if it’s do-able?

Thanks.

BTW - I also like InDesign better but am forced to use both programs.

by: Jeremy Schultz

Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:42:15 +0000

Good point from mjenius—a few years ago I’d say InDesign had several clear improvements over Quark IMHO but Quark has learned from InDesign and changed a great deal since version 4. They’re more similar nowadays.

I just wish QuarkXPress did perform better—I haven’t used it for awhile but its output always seemed inferior to InDesign (as almaink says).

by: almaink

Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:03:19 +0000

Quark has gone downhill ever since Macs moved to OSX. They are on version 7 and still no way to export live transparency. As a prepress operator Quark files take longer to produce and have more issues than Indesign files for this reason alone.
Why they decided to include something they had no way to export is beyond me. Flattened PDF’s take longer to trap and also can create issues with white spaces where adjoining images but transparent objects. I say good riddance to Quark .

by: mjenius

Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:07:34 +0000

Funny, how the more you learn about InDesign and QuarkXpress you realize how much alike they are. Seems like the more we argue that one is better than the other, the more they seem the same.

by: Jan Eskildsen

Sat, 08 Mar 2008 12:31:15 +0000

“While Adobe does not offer an InDesign content management system itself, there are a number of options including K4 and Woodwings. ”

And InDesign Server, which is the core of the successfull Cacidi Extreme Sever, look here www.cacidi.com

by: wiz

Fri, 07 Mar 2008 22:04:01 +0000

Desktop and Server are merely different aspects of the same thing. Both will evolve and become more inter-dependent no doubt. One thing is sure…Quark has a significant lead in the collaborative, open-architecture vision.

After all how can a company named after a mud brick outshine a company named for a building block of the Universe that was formed nanoseconds after the Big Bang? It’s like if you had a company named “turd” and were trying to outdo a company named “god”. “Turd” company can make a big stink but in the end people will come back to the “god” company for the Truth….ie InDesign is PageMaker all over again.

by: Jeremy Schultz

Thu, 06 Mar 2008 20:48:39 +0000

George H., thanks so much for providing your first-hand experience—great stuff for everyone watching this article.

Sounds like Quark has some good things coming in the next year or two. I’d be curious to see how QuarkXPress evolves however, even if it remains a desktop application I’m not sure it will stay the same now that Quark is pursuing more enterprise-level initiatives. Nothing operates in a vacuum, and at the very least I could see QuarkXPress working in tandem with DPS in some way. We’ll just have to see.

by: George H

Thu, 06 Mar 2008 19:58:45 +0000

Jeremy,

I was invited to attend the Quark VIP launch of DPS at the AIM/On Demand show in Boston this week. Ray was very explicit that substantial development dollars will be allocated to their core technology “QXP” and that QXP will remain as their flagship product and sometime this year we may see another major release of QXP.
I also spoke with Quark’s CIO (Jim Haggarty), who is leading the DPS initiative and he emphatically stated the QXP desktop technologies as well as support of other content creation tools and open standards are essential to a complete Dynamic Publishing Solution.

FYI, the VIP invite-only event was packed and ran for a couple of hours, with a tremendous buzz and interaction in the room from Customers, Analysts, and Software Vendors.

I believe we will once again have two formidable players in the Desktop Publishing arena, with Quark now branching out as complete Enterprise player as well.

by: Jeremy Schultz

Thu, 06 Mar 2008 18:07:25 +0000

I’m glad as well, since they can do both desktop and server-based products without a problem. As with all things in this industry, InDesign needs competition as much as Quark does so both keep innovating and benefiting the end user.

The one thing I was hoping to see in the press release that I didn’t was an explicit “QuarkXPress will remain a desktop publishing solution,” though it was implied in the comment about meeting the “needs of individual designers and large organizations alike.”

by: mjenius

Thu, 06 Mar 2008 17:24:57 +0000

Yeah, I’m glad to hear that they are not quitting the desktop business and that there’s still competition. Hopefully he is sincere and not merely saying that to prevent an Osborne effect.

by: Anonymous

Thu, 06 Mar 2008 01:22:09 +0000

So I see quark made the announcement!

Schiavone “QuarkXPress is and always will be the foundation of our product portfolio and we will continue to invest in it to meet the needs of individual designers and large organizations alike.”

Did some one forget to tell Quark to stop XPress?

by: Anonymous

Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:05:51 +0000

OMG! It happened! Quark made an announcement! They announced a “New Publishing Software”. Check it out!

http://dynamicpublishing.quark.com/dps/

quark.com/about/pres...idx=1194&alap=no

rockymountainnews.co...publishing-software/

Also, they changed their website.

http://www.quark.com

Is this the big announcement you were expecting? Don’t see them announcing the departure from the desktop market as you expected.

by: Jeremy Schultz

Wed, 05 Mar 2008 15:07:55 +0000

Too true, mjenius—there’s always new things to learn. Camera Raw is another good example—five years ago it was hardly a blip in our everyday lives, now anyone who does digital photography knows it to some extent. InDesign is another example.

by: mjenius

Tue, 04 Mar 2008 23:22:31 +0000

In school I learned Quark, Illustrator, Photoshop, Premiere, Dreamweaver, Flash, Director, and After Effects. My first job required me to learn InDesign. I hated it. My next job also used InDesign, by my third jobs (which was using ID also) I was totally switched over. But my fourth job was completely based on Quark. Fortunately for me, QuarkXpress hadn’t changed much since 4.xx, so I was able to jump right in with just a little refresher and whole lot of frustration. But it was good for me because I can use both programs well. What you learn in school doesn’t matter much because as the requirement for your job changes you have to relearn many things. Back then there was no Aperture nor Final Cut Pro, but many places use it instead of the Adobe products. Even within the same program, you sometimes have to relearn things. This was the case for me with Flash CS3 actionscripts.

by: Anonymous

Tue, 04 Mar 2008 21:38:14 +0000

Huh. I guess the rumor wasn’t really that far off, huh?

quarkvsindesign.com/...es-long-term-vision/