Comments on: Enough Whining About the Adobe-Macromedia Merger http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/features/2006/enough-whining-about-the-adobe-macromedia-merger/ The Authority for News & Opinion on the War of the Desktop Publishing Giants QuarkXPress and Adobe InDesign Thu, 22 May 2008 20:42:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.11 by: damo http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/features/2006/enough-whining-about-the-adobe-macromedia-merger/#comment-10537 Wed, 07 Jun 2006 15:53:06 +0000 http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/features/2006/enough-whining-about-the-adobe-macromedia-merger/#comment-10537 If you think Adobe taking over Macromedia was a good thing you are deluded. If you think Adobe taking over Macromedia was a good thing you are deluded.

]]> by: Greg H http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/features/2006/enough-whining-about-the-adobe-macromedia-merger/#comment-7623 Fri, 02 Jun 2006 23:34:12 +0000 http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/features/2006/enough-whining-about-the-adobe-macromedia-merger/#comment-7623 More on Adobe & Microsoft butting heads (this time over PDF), by Joe Wilcox here: www.microsoftmonitor.com/archives/015754.html Echoing Pariah's observations here, last November Joe Wilcox wrote: Target Adobe. I swear that Microsoft executives have painted a giant bullseye on Adobe. Long ago, I cautioned that Adobe and Microsoft were on collision course in the enterprise. www.microsoftmonitor.com/archives/012065.html More on Adobe & Microsoft butting heads (this time over PDF), by Joe Wilcox here:
www.microsoftmonitor...archives/015754.html

Echoing Pariah’s observations here, last November Joe Wilcox wrote:
Target Adobe. I swear that Microsoft executives have painted a giant bullseye on Adobe. Long ago, I cautioned that Adobe and Microsoft were on collision course in the enterprise.
www.microsoftmonitor...archives/012065.html

]]> by: iMatt http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/features/2006/enough-whining-about-the-adobe-macromedia-merger/#comment-3766 Tue, 23 May 2006 21:38:08 +0000 http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/features/2006/enough-whining-about-the-adobe-macromedia-merger/#comment-3766 You knew, a few years ago, I'd have bet money on Quark and Macromedi merging to head off Adobe. Esp as Quark Xpress was often bundled with Freehand in a special deal. Freehand would have given Quark a heavyweight drawing app and Fireworks a bitmap image editor. I agree broadly with Pariah. MS does not do graphics well. It knows operating systems, office suites, productivity, and even games , but not graphics for print and web. That said, I wonder, has Adobe become TOO big?? Do they still have the personal touch?? You knew, a few years ago, I’d have bet money on Quark and Macromedi merging to head off Adobe. Esp as Quark Xpress was often bundled with Freehand in a special deal. Freehand would have given Quark a heavyweight drawing app and Fireworks a bitmap image editor.

I agree broadly with Pariah. MS does not do graphics well. It knows operating systems, office suites, productivity, and even games , but not graphics for print and web.

That said, I wonder, has Adobe become TOO big?? Do they still have the personal touch??

]]> by: Greg H http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/features/2006/enough-whining-about-the-adobe-macromedia-merger/#comment-3251 Sat, 20 May 2006 00:59:26 +0000 http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/features/2006/enough-whining-about-the-adobe-macromedia-merger/#comment-3251 Very thought provoking. Thanks Pariah! Minor note, about the statement "threatening AfterEffects". From my vantage as a Flash developer, I do not see Flash now, or ever competing with After Effects. If you are doing film or broadcast titling, motion graphics or special effects you are not going to be using Flash. And if you are generating interactive content to be delivered over the web, you are not going to be using After Effects (Hey look! No event model! :-) I know cases where Flash and After Effects are complementary. But scant few cases where they compete. Other than that, only praise. Again thanks Pariah! Very thought provoking. Thanks Pariah!

Minor note, about the statement “threatening AfterEffects”. From my vantage as a Flash developer, I do not see Flash now, or ever competing with After Effects. If you are doing film or broadcast titling, motion graphics or special effects you are not going to be using Flash. And if you are generating interactive content to be delivered over the web, you are not going to be using After Effects (Hey look! No event model! :-)

I know cases where Flash and After Effects are complementary. But scant few cases where they compete.

Other than that, only praise. Again thanks Pariah!

]]> by: woz http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/features/2006/enough-whining-about-the-adobe-macromedia-merger/#comment-2748 Wed, 17 May 2006 14:50:02 +0000 http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/features/2006/enough-whining-about-the-adobe-macromedia-merger/#comment-2748 Oh and how about this : Robert X. Cringely thinks Apple should buy Adobe: "For Apple's Windows Strategy to Work, It Must Replace Microsoft Office and Buy Adobe Systems" After reading your article this does not really make a whole lot of sense... http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20060427.html Oh and how about this : Robert X. Cringely thinks Apple should buy Adobe: “For Apple’s Windows Strategy to Work, It Must Replace Microsoft Office and Buy Adobe Systems”
After reading your article this does not really make a whole lot of sense… pbs.org/cringely/pul.../pulpit20060427.html

]]> by: mike http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/features/2006/enough-whining-about-the-adobe-macromedia-merger/#comment-2745 Wed, 17 May 2006 13:50:53 +0000 http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/features/2006/enough-whining-about-the-adobe-macromedia-merger/#comment-2745 Excellent article, informative too. My first argument before reading all the way through was After Effects. This year especially since adobe has allowed support for more dynamic range video / images, and the new interface for their video products is a huge indicator to me that they are continuing to support them. Adobe tends to be more open than Mcrosoft too. Considering the PDF standard and specification, (though I'm not totally informed) is an open format. So programs like Open Office.org and others can create a PDF natively using free and open libraries. Microsoft continues to have it's formats closed. Even the MS XML isn't completely open like you would expect XML (text) to be. Any startup could create a program that created PDF files, but not necessarily one that competes with Word and word files. Microsoft should be taking advantage of the openness of the swf format and making a frontpage-like competitor to flash. Flash can handle video, audio, programming, and of course animations. It is an area that is dying for an easier application since many regard flash's timeline to be horrible. and many will never learn it because of it's difficulty level. Excellent article, informative too. My first argument before reading all the way through was After Effects. This year especially since adobe has allowed support for more dynamic range video / images, and the new interface for their video products is a huge indicator to me that they are continuing to support them.

Adobe tends to be more open than Mcrosoft too. Considering the PDF standard and specification, (though I’m not totally informed) is an open format. So programs like Open Office.org and others can create a PDF natively using free and open libraries. Microsoft continues to have it’s formats closed. Even the MS XML isn’t completely open like you would expect XML (text) to be. Any startup could create a program that created PDF files, but not necessarily one that competes with Word and word files.

Microsoft should be taking advantage of the openness of the swf format and making a frontpage-like competitor to flash. Flash can handle video, audio, programming, and of course animations. It is an area that is dying for an easier application since many regard flash’s timeline to be horrible. and many will never learn it because of it’s difficulty level.

]]> by: woz http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/features/2006/enough-whining-about-the-adobe-macromedia-merger/#comment-2744 Wed, 17 May 2006 13:43:45 +0000 http://quarkvsindesign.com/articles/a1/features/2006/enough-whining-about-the-adobe-macromedia-merger/#comment-2744 Normally this is the part where I write something really smart and whitty, but I can't think of anything to add. It sure looks like you've got the big picture allright, Pariah. Perhaps John Gruber’s got something to add? Normally this is the part where I write something really smart and whitty, but I can’t think of anything to add. It sure looks like you’ve got the big picture allright, Pariah. Perhaps John Gruber’s got something to add?

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